tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.comments2021-05-10T03:02:24.563-07:00Farrier FactsAndrew Elsbree CJFhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17571822849043314201noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-1133878502858554712008-12-17T14:22:00.001-08:002008-12-17T14:22:00.001-08:00Andrew! So fun visiting with you at AAEP. I though...Andrew! So fun visiting with you at AAEP. I thought you might want to see what became of one of our conversations:<BR/><BR/>http://americashorsedaily.com/large-horse-small-hooves/<BR/><BR/>Take care!<BR/>Holly Clanahan<BR/>America's Horse magazineUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14564480877676230984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-42903545268246434282008-12-17T14:22:00.000-08:002008-12-17T14:22:00.000-08:00Andrew! So fun visiting with you at AAEP. I though...Andrew! So fun visiting with you at AAEP. I thought you might want to see what became of one of our conversations:<BR/><BR/>http://americashorsedaily.com/large-horse-small-hooves/<BR/><BR/>Take care!<BR/>Holly Clanahan<BR/>America's Horse magazineUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14564480877676230984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-56053787031359201912008-09-18T15:21:00.000-07:002008-09-18T15:21:00.000-07:00Hi, I just wanted to say thanks for the mention on...Hi, I just wanted to say thanks for the mention on your blog. When I created drivepricing I didn't envision uses like this so it is interesting and flattering to see it used by people in different ways. Thanks again and let me know if you have any feature requests or feedback.Seanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02305660699840195524noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-898796926159197652008-07-22T19:30:00.000-07:002008-07-22T19:30:00.000-07:00New site looks terrefic. Another move foreword fo...New site looks terrefic. Another move foreword for what has become the new progressive AFA. <BR/><BR/>Hope to see more intert member commmunication available. Especially between members and regional board reps.<BR/><BR/>Andrew, keep the blog postings comeing. I for one think your commentaries are inspirational, honest and insightful. We can use some of that right now.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for everything you do.<BR/><BR/>Bill Searle, CJFBill Searle CJFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09932165872258513195noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-47702067901538793502008-07-14T08:53:00.000-07:002008-07-14T08:53:00.000-07:00I really enjoyed watching your video. I am an aspi...I really enjoyed watching your video. I am an aspiring farrier with a website on myspace, and some groups on facebook. I would like to add your video to both. And I have questions about hot shoeing and schooling.Daralynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03091013133643180306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-2640084362996185682008-07-08T17:27:00.000-07:002008-07-08T17:27:00.000-07:00Keg shoes today are of superior quality compared t...Keg shoes today are of superior quality compared to the keg shoes of years ago. I've been shoeing for 15 years and have yet to find a hoof that a keg shoe would not benfit. I carry many types in steel, aluminum, heavy or light. There may be a day when the hand making of shoes is beside the spinning wheel exhibit. Things change, Doctors don't bleed people anymore either. What doesn't work for the times is discarded and the new takes over, doesn't matter if we like it or not. I'm sure years ago people argued over coal or propane forges, and the tradition of it all. What the customer wants and is willing to pay for is what rules the day. Maybe it's not the farrier using the keg shoe that doesn't know how to make a shoe from bar stock maybe it's the guy that uses bar stock that doesn't understand how to use the keg shoe to it's full extent. HA!Bulletdodgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17779675496804439242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-2198541486400129162008-06-29T01:52:00.000-07:002008-06-29T01:52:00.000-07:00It does look good!! Keep up the good work!It does look good!! Keep up the good work!Danvers Child, CJFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12318165608762768871noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-67304392661171493272008-06-21T17:32:00.001-07:002008-06-21T17:32:00.001-07:00Hello Andrew,I understand your statement and agree...Hello Andrew,<BR/><BR/>I understand your statement and agree with it. In my opinion, the statement was written cleary and easy to understand. Keep up the good work.<BR/><BR/>Esco Buff, PhD, CFEsco Buff, PhD, CFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07723320221730000086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-31919164028672931492008-06-21T17:32:00.000-07:002008-06-21T17:32:00.000-07:00Hello Andrew,I understand your statement and agree...Hello Andrew,<BR/><BR/>I understand your statement and agree with it. In my opinion, the statement was written cleary and easy to understand. Keep up the good work.<BR/><BR/>Esco Buff, PhD, CFEsco Buff, PhD, CFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07723320221730000086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-31888886191052083932008-06-20T22:22:00.000-07:002008-06-20T22:22:00.000-07:00By the way Phil, I am EDeSocio, or Eric from Horse...By the way Phil, I am EDeSocio, or Eric from Horseshoes... Just to let you know buddy!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-69944926676244306172008-06-20T22:20:00.000-07:002008-06-20T22:20:00.000-07:00PNB, I wouldn't comment or infer that anyone's wor...PNB, <BR/>I wouldn't comment or infer that anyone's work is substandard nor would I claim mine is superior. What I truly believe is that I am such a better farrier today than I was 6 months ago.. MY quality is superior to the quality of my work in the past.. due to the AFA, Horseshoes.com, other farriers, contests and clinics. Kegs are nice because you have cut time in production and the job goes so quick.. Kegs do limit what you can do.. that doesn't mean you are not doing quality work. Unfortunately the more time you spend on a horse the less money you make that day... Right now I have more time than life and I love working in the fire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-23443298015845496082008-06-20T20:02:00.000-07:002008-06-20T20:02:00.000-07:00The most common problem I see in the trade is the ...The most common problem I see in the trade is the inability to recognize distortion and fit the shoe to the distorted foot. I have seen excellent craftsmanship applied to a distorted hoof capsule. The end result is stress on the internal structures of the foot and limb, ultimately doing harm to the whole horse. <BR/><BR/>Phil ArmitagePhilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015076196056430731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-7037388760242850992008-06-20T13:22:00.000-07:002008-06-20T13:22:00.000-07:00Welcome to the wonderful world of blogging, Andrew...Welcome to the wonderful world of blogging, Andrew. The comments part of blogging is not always the fun part.<BR/><BR/>Good Luck!<BR/><BR/>Fran Jurga<BR/>The Hoof Blog<BR/>Hoofcare and Lameness Journal<BR/>http://www.hoofcare.blogspot.comFran Jurgahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05714349624852287450noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-35633761649173947882008-06-20T09:48:00.000-07:002008-06-20T09:48:00.000-07:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18118949626599148271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-81463240405159303392008-06-19T23:07:00.000-07:002008-06-19T23:07:00.000-07:00Mikel,We had the same thing in the UK, our nationa...Mikel,<BR/><BR/>We had the same thing in the UK, our national association took down it's discussion board when a few matters of dissatisfaction were drawn to the public view. Sadly the board has gone forever.<BR/><BR/>PNB.PNBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03375384120074283663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-53730859958965585552008-06-19T22:50:00.000-07:002008-06-19T22:50:00.000-07:00From reading the blog, I don't thing Andrew was sa...From reading the blog, I don't thing Andrew was saying anything against using keg shoes, rather the point he was trying to make is properly preparing the keg shoe to meet the horse's needs.<BR/><BR/>With that said, I wonder why a different blog is started now when we haven't heard much from Andrew on the AFA site when it was up?<BR/><BR/>Andrew, why was the current AFA site taken down until the new one was online? Communication is a good thing. When the AFA site is up, will you transfer this blog to the AFA site and use it as such?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-64400002772027755572008-06-19T20:32:00.000-07:002008-06-19T20:32:00.000-07:00Andy Hope you have skin as thick as leather. I ...Andy<BR/> Hope you have skin as thick as leather. I don't think you're going to make everyone happy with comments, but i don't see them taking office or time from their daily tasks to educate and promote better horseshoers or AFS's membership.<BR/><BR/>Good Luck.<BR/> -John Crider<BR/> Ironman HorseshoeingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-80445099092807770772008-06-19T20:11:00.000-07:002008-06-19T20:11:00.000-07:00Andrew, can you make the font larger? Hard for us...Andrew, can you make the font larger? Hard for us old guys to read the small font.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015076196056430731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-59879339829645853012008-06-19T18:08:00.000-07:002008-06-19T18:08:00.000-07:00Hey guys/gals. Some great comments, why not sign ...Hey guys/gals. Some great comments, why not sign your name to it? Looks cowardly to me. <BR/><BR/>I use keg shoes and they are shaped to fit properly to meet the horses needs. <BR/><BR/>Phil Armitage<BR/>Real Farrier : )Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015076196056430731noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-9685893966445696402008-06-19T13:40:00.000-07:002008-06-19T13:40:00.000-07:00Slohndd,Sir, I respect your rights to run your bus...Slohndd,<BR/><BR/>Sir, I respect your rights to run your business in the way it suits you. <BR/><BR/>I can make shoes from bar, but not as consistently as MNC, so I choose not to, if I did my family would be rather thin. <BR/><BR/>Farriery has enabled me to raise a family and just pay a mortgage. Sadly there was very little butter and jam on the bread for a lot of the time!! Its a bit better today. <BR/><BR/>Are you saying that the quality of my work is not as good as yours?? because thats as it seems, its a pretty sweeping assumption to make!! <BR/><BR/>Anyway keep clogging away in the US, you will have to work twice as hard as others to make the same living however!!<BR/><BR/>Enjoy your life,<BR/><BR/>PNB.PNBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03375384120074283663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-369250291458541982008-06-19T13:18:00.000-07:002008-06-19T13:18:00.000-07:00Joe, X-Rays would be good.. I can't afford a mach...Joe, X-Rays would be good.. I can't afford a machine and I don't have a client who would call a vet every 6 weeks and pay trip call plus x-ray for a measly $40 trim. Plus this is the AZ desert and the only horses that don't have shoes are the ones who generally can't afford to pay for shoes.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Pro, I understand where you are coming from but it is to each his own. I strive for the CJF. I don't think Andrew is belittling me at all as a 'not yet CJF'...<BR/><BR/>PNB, I don't have a single keg shoe in my truck. I might not be one of the guys whose idea is to get under as many horses as they can.. get in and get out, who cares about the work done as long as the paycheck is there.... I take pride.. I make every shoe that goes on a foot because I can put steel where I want it when I forge from barsotck... I may not have the best business model.. but in my own ethics, I am proud of every foot I put on the floor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-53180130530357639302008-06-19T11:07:00.000-07:002008-06-19T11:07:00.000-07:00I have a question for AFA members. Would x-raying ...I have a question for AFA members. Would x-raying each hoof before triming produce a better result like those with laminiitic feet and navicular syndrome. <BR/><BR/>If it would produce a better result shouldn't it be done before triming and what would stop a farrier from performing x-ray's before triming.joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00103786037144919108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-32131248943570119162008-06-19T06:11:00.000-07:002008-06-19T06:11:00.000-07:00pro,Hand made shoes represent a very poor business...pro,<BR/><BR/>Hand made shoes represent a very poor business model.<BR/><BR/>The cost of the steel, fuel and upkeep of the forge probably treble the cost of the materials you are nailing on. Add to this the hour it takes to forge, nail up shoes and clip them. About an hour a set wasted, your have effectively reduced your income by 50%, as it takes the same time to fit readymades, making the work time two hours instead of one.<BR/><BR/>Its great to keep the tradition alive but as sure as hell you would be able to earn more or spend more time with the wife and kids by using ready made horse shoes!!<BR/><BR/>PNB.PNBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03375384120074283663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-31337932895972421502008-06-19T04:07:00.000-07:002008-06-19T04:07:00.000-07:00Slohndd,I only use handmades on 1 or 2 horses a ye...Slohndd,<BR/><BR/>I only use handmades on 1 or 2 horses a year and then only because they don't make the shoe I need. The insult is to all of those guys that don't feel the need to make handmades for their practice to provide quality hoof care.<BR/><BR/>The insult is in the assumption or intimation that only a CJF is capable of being a "real" farrier and that everyone else doesn't measure up. That would include you, you know.<BR/><BR/>No being a CJF isn't one of my primary goals. Being a good farrier, with a commitment to ongoing education and advancement in my knowledge is. When the CJF exam also tests the morals and ethics of the candidate then it might be worth taking. Making handmades fast doesn’t make me money because my clients won’t pay for the time or material to do it. <BR/><BR/>I forgot to ask the peerless leader why the hell Rick Burten resigned as Treasure? Based on what I see on other boards it is looking a lot like the AFA is still riddled with scandal and bad management. It also looks a lot like he didn’t want to answer anyone’s questions on that matter because he took the fifth all the way.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18118949626599148271noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2299232356755337948.post-22921454472925099662008-06-19T00:28:00.000-07:002008-06-19T00:28:00.000-07:00Well done AFA,Don't get put off by initial poor co...Well done AFA,<BR/><BR/>Don't get put off by initial poor comment, it tough to start something, trust me we have scars.<BR/><BR/>in the UK, at ukhsu.com [horses mouth] for several years now. The first really positive results are now rolling in.<BR/><BR/>PNB.PNBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03375384120074283663noreply@blogger.com